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Maria,

I am emailing because of all the sites and books I have found or that have been given to me, this one seems to closely fit my current situation. I have downloaded your book and this site is very helpful.  It is the first time i have ever dared to share my story with a stranger.  Although I admit I have been searching frantically for any and all explanations and help. The advice on letting go and becoming happier on my own is of course the recourse I want to take now, but imagining a future without him makes it all seem so hopeless.  I would like to free myself from this pain and depression that I am keeping myself in, but I would also like a second chance with someone who seems lost himself these days.

It has been a long and complicated road with my now ex.  We met when i was barely 20.  He said it was love at first sight while I was much more skeptical.  Little by little he wooed me, poems, letters, calls from foreign countries.  We fell madly in love and have been that way ,or so i thought, for more than ten years.  About two years ago he started having an affair with a young girl (she is in her twenties) who had been sending him emails (he is in his fifties). I wasn't aware at all, until she sent a letter to our house and i found it.  After that, he promised she was nothing, it was flattery, he thought I didn't love him, etc.

I was devastated but wanted to make it work.  Things were better, fast forward a few months and the girl was at my door step, frantically banging on the door and I realized she was still in his life.  I had a melt down, he was on his knees begging me not to leave him, telling me he would prove to me with actions I was the love of his life. I was a wreck, aggressive, bitter, angry, I said things I regret and made his life miserable so of course, a month later he told me it was over and never coming back.

It has been several months now, I am still feeling like we belong together and he is now in a relationship with the other girl. However, he sends me random texts (not very often) wondering where i am, asking if i want to come to visit for a day or two, then when i respond in anyway, he stops contacting me again.  I have been trying to play it cool, not show him how broken I am now, but it is lonely and I miss what we once had.

I guess my question is, will he regret this and come back? Or even better, is there any steps i can take to make him see me as he once did? I know you don't know him, but in your experience of other cases.  I don't want our past, I want a new and different future and a chance to get to know the person he is now.  I always thought i was a strong independent woman, but i have this painful ache I cannot get rid of.

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The goal of this website is to give support to people who are facing problems in their relationship related to cheating, abuse and narcissism. I am living in Europe and English is not my native language, I wish you will excuse me if I make some grammatical errors. I have a background in neuroscience and behavioral sciences and I am currently doing brain research related to these topics in university in my home country. I decided to write in English because I wish to reach as many people as I can around the world.

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Dear Friend,

Thank you for your letter. I am so sorry that you had to go through such a heartache. I know how painful it is to find out that the person who you thought was committed to you has betrayed your trust in such a horrible way. You wrote: "I always thought i was a strong independent woman, but i have this painful ache I cannot get rid of." If you read other stories on this website, you will soon notice that these same words are repeated over and over again in different letters. Your feelings are far from uncommon. The relationship with one's husband or wife is basically the most important relationship of one's life. If this base stone gets shattered it will have a profound impact on every areas of one's life. Your painful feelings do not mean you are not a strong and independent person, it simply means that you are facing a crisis and you are reacting to it in a very normal manner.  In fact, if you were not strongly affected by something like this, there would be something wrong with you.

Only emotionally cold people and people who are incapable of experiencing empathy could face something like this without being strongly affected. Even though you are hurting, try to remind yourself that the pain you are feeling is an indicator of you being a normal, caring person. I know this does not take the pain away, but I wish it will make it slightly easier to bare when you can think of the pain as something that is very natural under these circumstances instead of implying that you would be somehow "weak" as a person.

You were wondering if it is possible to resume the relationship with your ex husband. Based on everything you mentioned in your letter about the way he has been behaving towards you, it is quite unlikely that you would be able to fully trust him even if he did return to you. Even if he told you he is now fully committed to you, it would take a long time before you could trust him again (I am talking about several years). If you have read the page How to Get Over Cheating on this website, you know that it is very hard to get over the betrayal the first time when it happens. Cheating destroys something precious in a relationship and it is very difficult (but not impossible) to rebuild the feeling the spouses shared before cheating took place. If the betrayal occurs second time (and especially if the betrayed spouse has not had the time to heal) it is considerably harder to regain the trust and loving feeling in a relationship.

Your husband betrayed your trust when he started an affair with this young woman. He used somewhat ridiculous excuses to justify his actions, such as him thinking you do not love him anymore (in such a situation the right thing to do is to get a divorce, not to start an affair). Then he made a promise to you to end the relationship, but he kept it going behind your back. This behavior shows your husband was not able to put you and your feelings as a priority, instead he was only thinking of himself and pursuing his own desires.

When your husband was caught second time he begged you to stay with him, even though he most likely had told the young woman he loves her too and wishes to be with her (or something similar to give her some encouragement). Even when he was caught, he was not ready to sacrifice his relationship with the young woman for your sake. Dear Friend, this is all you need to know. This shows quite clearly the personality of your ex husband. People like him can appear very kind and polite, but when it comes down to choosing between their own desires and happiness of someone else, they tend to put themselves as priority. It is very difficult to maintain a functional a relationship with this kind of a person.

You said he occasionally sends you text messages asking how you are doing and inviting you to come over, but when you respond he cuts the communication off again. This is a form of control. Your ex husband feels unpleasant thinking that you are no longer dependent on him, that you might actually have your own life and perhaps even romantic involvement with someone. Most likely the reason why he is sending you these messages time to time is to see if you are still emotionally "available". When you respond, and especially if your response is positive, he feels good again while thinking you are still there for him. Then he cuts communication because his true aim was not to resume the relationship with you (if it was, you would surely know it) but just to get a confirmation that you are still "there for him", at list on emotional level.

Dear Friend, I understand you still love your husband very much. Few months of separation is not enough to detach emotionally from someone who you have spent more than a decade with. Again, your feeling is perfectly normal and shows that you are a warm and caring person. I strongly feel it is best if you do not try to resume your relationship with this man. It sounds like he is the kind of a person who has very hard time remaining loyal and faithful in a relationship.

You are still young yourself, yet somehow your husband felt the need to get involved with a woman who was even younger than you. You wrote that your husband is in his fifties and this girl is in her twenties, and that he got involved with her when she contacted him via email. If you resume the relationship with him, imagine how the situation will be like when you are older. It is very likely that at some point he will again start to look for a younger woman, especially if younger women make themselves available for him in similar fashion as this girl did. You are still young and you have lot's of time to find your own happiness. I strongly encourage you to consider carefully if you wish to jeopardize your future happiness with someone who is not worthy of your trust.

I fully understand what you mean when you said that you cannot imagine your future without your husband. You have spend almost your whole adult life with this man, it goes without saying that it is extremely depressing to think of the life without him. But imagine how much harder it would be for you to leave him had you spent with him two or three decades instead of one. It is much harder to start to build a new life alone when you are in your fifties. Even though you feel very hurt now, I am sure that when you look back after couple years, you will realize that you could not have found happiness with a person who was able to treat you like this.

It will help you to move on when you realize that this man does not truly love you. If he did, he would not have done this to you. You love him strongly. Could you have done a similar thing to him? I believe the answer is no. One does not behave this way towards someone one loves. It sounds like your husband was strongly in love with you in the beginning of the relationship but as years went by and routine stepped in, he slowly lost interest and wanted to experience the thrill of a secret relationship with a younger woman.

It can be that at some point your ex husband will get tired of this young girl he is now with and tries to get back together with you. If that happens, I recommend you to consider carefully whether you are willing to risk your future happiness by resuming your relationship with him. It can be that regardless of the risks you decide to resume the relationship if he expresses interest in doing so. If you get back together with him and end up hurt again, please do not be too hard on yourself. It often takes several attempts to break free from this kind of a relationship. Many of us go back couple times before we understand that separation is truly for the best.

You were wondering if he could again see you as he once did. It is possible that after spending some time apart he might become attracted to you again, however it is likely that if you resume the relationship and as time goes by that attraction again gets weaker and then you are again facing a similar situation, the only difference being that you are older and it is even harder for you to move on. There are people who are capable of a long-term respectful relationship and then there are people who are not capable of it. It sounds like this man belongs to the latter group. Most likely you could not have done anything "better" in the relationship. What happened was not your fault.

Even if he returned to you, I do not think you would be able to fully trust him. If you are not able to fully trust your spouse, your life will be very stressful and unhappy. Dear Friend, I do not wish that kind of a life for you. I do not recommend you to keep your life on hold and wait for him possibly getting tired of that younger woman. Please remember what I said above: Even if he did return to you, in a long run it would be very hard to trust a person who has been capable of treating you this way and who is clearly capable of being dishonest in a relationship (the affair with that young woman was not a one night stand or a momentary lapse of reason, it was an ongoing calculated betrayal).

Dear Friend, right now you need to be patient. Healing after a betrayal like this takes time. I would recommend you to cut all contact with this man and not to respond to him even if he tries to contact you. I know it is very hard to do this, especially in the beginning. If you fail in maintaining No Contact, please do not be too hard on yourself. Trust me: Eventually you will get over this. Please write to me anytime you wish. You are not alone.

To read more about narcissism in a relationship and how to recover after ending an abusive relationship, please see section Narcissism.

Warm hug,

Maria

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Comments (13)
  • Isla Koelf
    I had a relationship with a narcissist that last 3 years. I was married and broke up my marriage because of him. The narcissist guy never took me seriously although I was totally in love with him. In the beginning he appeared to be very taken by me but then, he started creating situations to make me jealous, torturing me, berating me, cheating, lying compulsively (and often contradicting himself in the same sentence). He works in the same company I do and has been badmouthing me and trying to get me fired since I started trying to break away from him. He was very possessive, controlling and would be jealous of his own shaddow. I had so many terrible moments in my life caused by his jealousy reactions. Cried so much, lost so much sleep and probably aged but after 2,5 years of suffering and being mocked, played and deceived, I was able to leave him. We still work in the same company but I avoid as much as I can going any close to where his office is and he does the same thing. This was the biggest mistake I ever made in my life and one I am still paying for, but I am still here, trying to be happy and trying to make better choices in my life now. No more narcissists EVER again. If I sense someone I am getting close to has no empathy or shows signs that he has no idea of what that is, I am gone in a heartbeat.
  • sleepynomorein SEATTLE  - not alone
    i am greatful for this site - i recently been blindsided so trying to cope
  • surya  - waiting for ur advice
    Hi Maria,
    I am a house wife having 8yr old son.My husband is working in a bank and our wedding was 9years before.Now my huband is havin an affair with a lady working with him who is a divorcee having a kid..We had a good family life before,,but all in a sudden my husband abandoned us in india taking away our passports,pleding my gold and taking away the locker key.Afterwards he/she send me a mail that he needs Divorce..7 months passed now after he left us and i was waiting for him like 7 days..Sending him mails frequently..But the reply was very rude.In between i come to know through my neighbours that she& kid was staying with him in our apartment.After they confirmed that i know about this they shifted the apartment.I am completely broken down..I doesnt have a job and i've to bring up my son..I am not able to control my emotions.I am having health problems like diabetis and overweight also..I always feel like to stay alone crying or look at my husband's photo always.Please advice me how can i recover from this.
  • kimberly glaser  - book to read
    This book has helped me to move on from being betrayed repeatedly by a narcissistic man. The Betrayal Bond, Breaking Free of Exploitive Relationships, by Patrick J. Carnes, Ph.D. I highly recommend reading it.
  • mary  - What was I thinking??
    I met my husband for the first time on my 17th birthday. I was so smitten and flattered that a "man" paid attention to me, that wasn't a high school boy as he was 3 years older than me. We married a year and a half later, now fast forward nearly 29 years later and I have decided after many, many, many heartbreaks that I am moving towards a healing in my life that I never thought I deserved. When I move through this website most of everything I read about "narcissist" is a perfect description of my husband. WOW. I have not trusted him for more than 20 years but would always credit everything to the way I felt about myself or my insecurities from weight gain or being a stay at home mom. I never-EVER felt as if I could trust the instinct I had from deep within. My husband has been involved with many women and I have been told every time "we're just friends", "you're being ridiculous", and so on. Then there cam a time that I could no longer deny it, pictures, emails, etc.. etc.. had surfaced and 'I', through instinct, suspicion and a lot of prayer could no longer believe, nor deny, nor protect him or my self from his destruction and lies.
    I'm not happy, as of yet, but I will be. I will be okay, having peace, trust and honesty within myself is exactly what I need to begin the healing I so desperately need and deserve.
  • Gauri Sharma  - My Story of Love and Betrayal
    Hi Maria,

    I am 30 year old women with two kids.Daughter 5year old and son 5 months old.

    I am working, self dependent and very emotional person.Ours is a love marriage.Me and my husband got married 7 years back.I have alsways loved him for the kind of Human-Being he is.He is a fantastic fin -loving peron, very emotional, caring, very supportive and respects women.

    After we got married, we had issues related to our families and we use to fight a lot coz of all these issues.He just can't live in a tense enviornment and left home without telling me, when i was seven months pregnant with my first child.Nobody was telling me where he was and i had gone though hell during that period.I called him several times and he was just not showing concern though i was pregnant and admitted to the hospital.His behaviour towards me changed dramatically and he told me that he can only come back to me if i agree to give him a written note which says that i will never fight with him again in future.I even agreed to do so but i could easily make out that he is talking to me in a lawler's language and i refused to appologize in writing.Then after few days, he came back to me and started living a free life without any answerability.He was just interested in physical thing with no committment.

    We started living together again but i could not accept his behaviour towrads me.

    Slowly and gradually, i statrted ignoring his physical needs.I couldnot connect with him...and that desire got completely lost.I ignored his physical needs for almost four years.He is financially unstable and i am taking care of all his financial needs since marriage.

    4 years passed like that and i thought things are getting better and i concieved again.

    My second baby was born and i was on the moon...

    After 20 days of my child birth, i got to know that he is going around with some girl since last one year.I raided the girl's residence and caught him red-handed for the first time on 23th july-2011.After that he promised me that he will end that relationship and he loves me.I forgive him and started life again.He was living a parallel life with this girl also.After few days, i caught him again with the same girl and asked that girl to visit my place and clarify the situation.That girl came and told me evrything that they must have shared.I came to know that he is paying his rentals and buying her expensive gifts and supporting her financially.He also promisedf her that in case i leave him then they will stay together.I was shattered to know that he was using me as ATM and fulfilling her desires by spending my hard earned money.

    After this incident, i caught him 3 more times.Evertime, he promised and did the same mistake.

    Finally, he opened up and said that he is little insecure about our relationship thats why he is going to her again and again.If i promise him that i will not leave him under any circumstances then he will not commit the same mistake again.He is blaming me for his betrayal.He is saying that since i was not fullfilling his physical needs, he was left wkith no other option but to decieve me.

    I have stopped enquiring abot him as i dont want to get disturbed always as i have to focus on my work also.

    We are still living together, but i really dont know...whether this man loves me or staying with me for some other reason???

    His past is really troubling me though giving this relationship another chance was my decision as he was okay with anything...living life with me or without me.......

    What should i do??

    I really love him a lot.

    Please help??
  • lynn rahn  - You are with a narcissist
    You have his two children is time to get your behind to a lawyer and get support and a divorce....Your Narcissist has control over u and continues to cheat on u....Narcissists can not be helped. they feel no empathy and no love......he is using u for money and the other woman for sex...this will never change till u make the change....

    FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU
    FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME

    Leave this narcissist as soon as you can and dont look back, thats what i did and i feel great.
  • Brandon  - Knowing if she really will make it work
    Dear Maria

      I am a 31 year old man who has been with my fiancé for 4 years. We met as she was ending her relationship  with her ex. We had an instant connection by loving the same things and having the same sense of humor. After a year I moved in with her and her 4 little girls. We where great until 2 2/12 years I was looking at adult personals on a web site. I wasn't looking to hook up just was interested in how people acted so free it peeked my interest a bit but I took no action. My fiancé found out and was up set so much she completely shut down. She knows I didnt cheat with anyone but she felt like I did. We worked our way through the whole ordeal. I regret ever doing what I did. Because I love her.
    Now things are different she got a job offer that was great. But now she works long hours. I left my job do to complications and stayed as a stay at home dad. I was not use to this infact I became lazy. She had begged me to keep the house looking good which again I at first didn't respond. Things where good with her and the kids. We had our fights mostly what I wasn't doing right. She started telling me how she wish I text her more or show up on time to see her. Of course I didn't make it a big deal. ( I should have).
    We ran into car trouble. So we where down to 1 car for six people. Her and I went to a car dealership and found her a car. The car dealer was very helpful. A day before we got the car I pocked My girls phone up to get some info from it. ( this I've done many times) I saw that the dealer had been texting her for the last 2 days about 30 text. I started to read them but nervously put the phone down as she walked in. She grabbed her phone and went to the bathroom. I fallowed asking for her phone she asked why and was acting very weird. What she was doing was stalling to erase the text. I told her I knew and she said that it was nothing just at first talking about the car and that struck up a conversation. I said I didn't want her texting him. I even notified his work of the breach in privacy since he used his personal cell to contact her. She cryer and told me how sorry she just wanted someone to talk to. ( I was not even getting the signs that she was putting out). After that day a week went by our sex life ( which always was great) was normal but she wanted me to want to just take her and have sex not worrying about how she felt( I always made sure she wanted to have sex before we did). She said that she wanted me to want her.  I wish I had listened. We had planned to go down and see her sister for a week everything was all set. On the night before we left she was working late just like the nights before. When she got home she was all weird do to her forgetting to take her medication. She passed out being from the pill she took to calm down. I was upset because I wasn't finished packing and getting the kids to bed I grew mad but couldn't say a word. Her oldest daughter was going with us so she was packing. She asked if her mom had scissors in her purse I said I would check. When opening it I found the scissors but I also saw a spar cell phone that she hid. I left the room to see what was on it. ( knowing it was not good) I ran through the text and say the dealers name and my worst fear came true. I opened it and saw all the text about them having sex together. I couldn't read them all do to my anger and disgust. I sent my daughter to bed and woke my fiancé up. She looked like she was terrified. She reached for the phone begging me not to read it. We got into a grabbing match because she was trying not to let me see. I smashed the phone on the wall but she was able to get to the text and delete them. This time I knew. I told her I read them and she didn't say anything. Almost scared to react. I decided to set her down instead of just walking out. She went through the detail of how she felt nothing for him and how she just like being wanted and I wasn't providing that. I was broken I asked her how long she told me two weeks she was with him 3-4 times. Then she told me how kit was almost over before I caught her. She begged me to travel and get away so we could work things out. I decided that would be best. I love her even though she did this selfish act.
      As we left the next day she made a crappy remark joking about how I ruined her fun. ( her way of dealing). I was upset and she new it. She told me she joked cause she was so nervous about loosing me. We got a understanding why she did it. I contacted the dealer threating him. Then I called again he answered and begged me to understand he thought we whee done. I started to ask him questions that he was willing to answer in fear of me finding his home and telling his girlfriend.
      My fiancé found out he talked to me and asked what he said. I told her and she said he lied that she was never gonna end her and I. She told him she just wanted no strings attached sex it made her feel wanted the thing I wasn't giving her. She told me how she would make time in her day to meet him. That she was with him one day then me the next then him again. I was furious. We talked as much as we could on the trip and it had good and bad effects. I started thinking all the times I would wait for her to come home and I rubbed her feet and cooked her dinner(I've rubbed her feet for almost four years everyday) now knowing she was with him. She claims it was like a bad dream and she regrets it. Last night she said she was glad I caught her it really woke her up. But then said it was gonna end soon for them but it wasnt quite over until I caught it. Now she's trying to make an effort to show me where she is and talk to me. But claims she doesn't want to cry or show to much emotion due to causing a bigger argument. She said the fantasy that he was in wasn't what she thought the guy was a big time cheater. She found out he was sleeping with another girl plus her and his girlfriend. That made her feel gross.
    She continued to tell me how the lady who lived across the street gave her such nasty looks because he had been with her too. She felt terrible because she knowingly had sex with him while his girlfriend slept.  I took all that hard at first but I realized she was 100% in the wrong but she really felt I wasn't trying to listen to her. She says she can't believe she did it. I finally had sex with her last night and I wad dominate and spontaneous. It was great she look so happy and she had a glow about her that made me feel like everything was ok. That feeling goes away though and is replaced with fear. I am worried is she going to so it again. Or is she still seeing him and just lying about what she said. I'm so not sure what to do. I love her and the kids. I just hope we reconnect and I'm not being made into a fool. Does it seem we can last?

    Please help me
    BS
  • Sweet1  - Sorry for typo's
    I am at my wit's end and can't even function or work.
  • Sweet1  - Newlywed HB cheated
    My hb & I in our 50's. We had wonderful wedding, everyone loved him. He is very attractive, has a good job, travels much, had a good time together.He is unreasonable, demanding, and always distant. He talks incessantly, brags a lot. Told people everywhere we were getting married, yet hadn't asked me.Told people he was taking me to So Amer. for almost a yr.
    He was distant on our honeymoon, not lovey dovey.Told me he had been cheated on & knew how it felt, would NEVER do that.
    When he returned from recent trip, found his phone email was open. He never gave me codes for any accounts. He wouldn't put $ in our joint account.After being married 3 mos, I find he is writing a woman telling her that he loved kissing touching her.He invited her to return w/him to So Amer. in few mos.He responded apathetically. Texted me, didn't call. Didn't beg, nor say he was sorry for few hrs.
    Day later, found there were 3 other women he was talking to, inviting to come back w/him there. And me. He spoke sexually to them, and found out when he told me he was on biz trip, 1 mo. after marriage, that he was meeting a new woman he met online and was in her hotel room. She was kind enough to call and reveal all this.They went out 2x, she turned him down for sex.
    After a day or 2, he started to become frantic to keep me. he has no answer as to why he needs so much attention, and knew it was wrong.He is in counseling. So am I. My kids(25, 30) hate him and want nothing to do w/him, they say he is a true con. I lvoe the man, but never though I would put up w/my newlywed hb cheating on me w/many. He is a serial cheater I find out, & has been doing this for yrs, w/many. He is a narcisstic pers disorder.After 3 mos, not sure what to do. Why no conscience to begging, crying,hysterical 2 days later after being caught? He has written about wanting me back on FB, a public forum. SO embarrasing. I hvave been staying at my dghtr's.He is texting and calling about 70 xs a day! So hurt and deceived. Can he really change? He is all about God redeemed him.
  • natalie  - helppp
    hi. i had been in a realtionship for 6 months with someone who made me feel amazing. being stupid one night i cheated on him after id left in an arguement, he kew about this and we moved on, later on in the realtionship we argued again and i went on to facebook, messaged my ex. my boyfriend then saw these messages and ended it with me and him. i then found out i was pregnant to my boyfriend, i told him but he still carnt forgive me for what i done? please help me
  • Carmen  - Narcissist
    Maria,

    Arent the people who cheat with a narcissist then narcissistic themselves? At least when they know there is a family and children involved? Self important, Selfish, lack of empathy, etc.
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